A History of the Debate Over 1 John 5:7-8

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YOU ARE in the right place, if you are looking for “the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.” The internet’s misinformation and puddle-deep scholarship “hath blinded the minds of them which believe not” (2 Cor. 4:4). Would you like to read THE ONLY original letter, not available elsewhere on the internet, proving wrong the main charge against the King James Bible? Those who “fight against God” and his word, such as James White, begin their barrage by charging that 1 John 5:7 does not BELONG IN THE Bible because it does not follow ‘the’ Greek in 1 John 5:7.

THE SUPPORT KJB critic James White uses has now been shown to be utterly FALSE. He pretended that Erasmus’ Greek text only included 1 John 5:7 based on a challenge by Lee to find one Greek text that included it. BUT NOW, his entire story has crumbled through the letter Michael Maynard received, AFTER his 1st and only printed edition of A History of the Debate Over I John 5:7-8 was finished.

BECAUSE WE were corresponding with Maynard, regarding printing his second edition, he gave us this documentation, which is not included in any of the other copies or PDFs of his work on the entire internet.

Maynard received this vital letter from Dr. Henk J. de Jonge, dean of the faculty of theology of Leiden University, the world’s leading specialist in the Greek and Latin writings of Erasmus, as well as the history of New Testament scholarship. He was the President of the Studiorum Novi Testamenti Societas, an international society of New Testament scholars.

MAYNARD SENT US THE de JONGE LETTER, as well as a page of the errata to add to the anticipated 2nd printing. Sadly, Maynard passed away before the 2nd edition could be printed, so we put it all in an e-book PDF format, now including the vital new materials and letter. We are the only publisher who has this material and this vital key to expose the “unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.“ Ephesians 5:11.

A History of the Debate Over 1 John 5:7-8 does it all

THE history of just one major Bible verse, reveals the true, seldom-told history of the entire pure text. If you understand this one verse, you can dismiss any and all nonsense about, ‘The Greek word really says’. The main proof text for the Godhead is 1 John 5:7-8. It has been used as THE leading ‘Trinitarian Proof Text’ for millennia in the ‘Confessions of Faith’ of all Christian denominations through time. 1 John 5:7 proclaims:

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word,     and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 

THAT VERSE destroys all false religions, denominations, sects, and cults. It tramples the Far Eastern pantheon of gods in Buddhism, Hinduism and Confucianism (and Mormonism).

• It stamps out the Middle Eastern religion of Islam (which says, ‘God has no Son’).
• It cramps the practice of Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic patrons, who substitute ‘Mary’ and their ‘saints’ as their intercessors and focus.
• It dampens the Jehovah Witness pamphleteers who deny Jesus, the Word, as well as the Holy Ghost.

THE atheist, agnostic, humanist, and spiritual ‘seeker’ need only read that verse to find out who the true God is. That chapter of 1 John concludes affirming:

     “…This is the true God…” 1 John 5:20.

Now that the proof is gone, the spoof has begun. Wouldn’t you expect the devil to grapple with that verse? Yes! The serpent’s scribes have omitted it in new versions, because $alesmen are always looking for the widest audience.

WHEN KJB critics say, ‘There are no doctrinal changes in modern versions,” remind them of this dart at the heart of God’s word.

The serpent’s sleight of hand knows everyone can count to 10, so he retains the VERSE NUMBERS 7 and 8. But he’s counting on his missing fingers that many will not count the WORDS and see that he OMITS 25 WORDS in verses 7 and 8. Compare the true KJB to the corrupt ESV, NASB, LSB, NIV, and CSB, which omit the UNDERLINED WORDS for starters. (Biblegateway.com used for uniformity.)

KING JAMES BIBLE

The underlined words are omitted in the new versions

5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

    ESV (English Standard Version)

7 For there are three that testify: 8 the Spirit and the water and the blood; and these three agree.

    NASB (New American Standard Bible) 

For there are three that testify: 8 [h] the Spirit and the water and the blood; and the three are [i] in agreement.

    Legacy Standard Bible (John MacArthur’s scribes)

7 For there are three that bear witness: 8 [i] the Spirit and the water and the blood; and the three are [j] in agreement.

    NIV (New International Version)

7 For there are three that testify: 8 the [a] Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement.

    Christian Standard Bible (Southern Baptist Convention)

7 For there are three that testify:[c] 8 the Spirit, the water, and the blood—and these three are in agreement.

THEIR shrinking, hiding, embarrassed footnotes (h) (i) (j) (a) (c), could be pronounced like ‘hijack’: which is to “unlawfully seize a vehicle in transit and force it to go to a different destination or use it for one’s own purposes.” And that is just what they have done to the vehicle of God’s words, the Holy Bible.

THEY not only skyjack what has historically been called ‘the heavenly witnesses,’ their notes seize the history of that verse, looking at it through a pirate’s collapsable spyglass. Their pirated evidence collapses badly in Michael Maynard’s classic and original history, A History of the Debate Over 1 John 5:7, 8.

IF you want to really understand the history of the Bible, this is THE book to read. It will revolutionize your thinking about the subject. It truly confirmed mine, with its vast and original documentation. Its history of documents is original and closer to the truth than most. It is KJB 101 for the debater. This book teach one how to think about the Bible and its history, not what to think.

He traces, generation by generation, the verity of this verse and its use world-wide. He proves that it has belonged in the Bible since the originals were written.

Just like the Catholic church in which I was raised, the Greek church magnifies Mary and their ‘saints’ over their shrinking baby Jesus. Heresies regarding the Godhead (aka ‘Trinity’) led to the removal of this verse by the unorthodox Greek Orthodox church, the harbinger of all Greek manuscripts. Their Bible omissions and heresies were covered in Hazardous Materials: Greek and Hebrew Study Dangers.

• Their heresy of Modalism (as well as shades of Sabellianism, Noetianism, Patripassianism, and Modalistic monarchianism) were expressed as early as the 3rd century. 1 John 5:7, 8 exposed too clearly their weird views on the Godhead.
• Their other heresy of Theosis, where the serpent’s lie in Genesis 3:5 “Ye shall be as gods…” comes true, as Greek Orthodox men merge into the Godhead.
• The Greeks generally omitted the entire book of Revelation also.

GOD PRESERVED his word to all Christians to every language and nation, not just to one ‘wobbly unorthodox crutch.’

THE author, Michael Maynard, studied in Europe under some of the few objective textual researchers of our generation. His Masters of Library Science studies demanded that he do real and original research, using strictly primary sources in the various languages of Europe, not the typical copying from other English books.

We have correspondence from the author, before his passing, asking us if we would publish it. We are the only ones to whom the author gave permission to copy it in this, its last and present form. Evidently, the Lord thought that he had finished his course and agrees with us that the book is ‘finished’. It thoroughly ‘finished off’ the tiny men who add their tiny notes to the HOLY BIBLE.

Since this last printed edition is permanently out of print, we have made it available to you in:

• Downloadable e-book
• Mailable on a CD-ROM in PDF format,

The e-Book of the entire book allows you to read and print out the book on your computer (many office supply stores, such as UPS, can print it out for you if that option is not readily available to you personally).